Today Jesse is joined by fellow podcaster Rob Carmack to talk about his gateway album to Bruce Springsteen fandom Magic.
They catch up, talk about the album and then in a bonus section, Rob and Jesse talk about the current situation among many Christian leaders and their embrace of Donald Trump's presidency. Don't worry if you don't want to hear politics in your music podcast, Jesse gives you a notice so you don't have to listen.
Rob's Twitter - @robcarmack
Jesse's Twitter - @jessejacksonDFW